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May 1, 2008

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Common Deuces Wild Mistakes – Juan or the Other – May 29, 2008

Figuring Out Quick Quads - June 5, 2008

Breaking Full Houses in Quick Quads - June 12, 2008

A Quick Quads Puzzler - June 19, 2008

Let’s Go Scouting - June 26, 2008

When You're Not Sure of the Game - July 3, 2008

Can it be Right to Play Hunches - July 10, 2008

Good Hearted Woman in Love With a Good Timin’ Man - July 17, 2008

One-Way Versus Two-Way Straight Penalties - July 24, 2008

Effectual versus Ineffectual Straight Penalties - July 31, 2008

Unusual Dealt Royals - August 7, 2008

Learning from a Horse Handicapper - August 14, 2008

When Bad Is Good - August 21, 2008

I Live For These Moments - August 28, 2008

Las Vegas Do It Different - September 4, 2008

Figuring the worth when there are Multiple Progressives - September 11, 2008

Which is the Better Play? - September 18, 2008

How Much is Too Much? - September 25, 2008

Evaluating a Promotion - October 2, 2008

Sometimes the Jack, Sometimes Ace-Jack, Never the Ace by Itself - October 9, 2008

Why I Don't Play Poker - October 16, 2008

What is a Royal Flush Cycle? - October 23, 2008

A Logical Puzzler - October 30, 2008

Another Look at Changing Machines - November 6, 2008

Testing Matters - November 13, 2008

An Easy Yet Important Quick Quad Puzzler - November 20, 2008

Some Quick Quad Mathematics - November 27, 2008

Barona Improves its Video Poker - December 4, 2008

An Interesting Quick Quads Puzzle - December 11, 2008

Shirley Plays Suduku - December 18, 2008

How Often Does One Time in 360 Occur? - December 25, 2008

Earning a Free Cruise - January 1, 2008

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Las Vegans Do It Different

Dear Mr. Dancer:

Last year I lived in Mississippi and played a lot of video poker. I won over $200,000 in jackpots --- but as you know the state takes 3% out of these, in addition to your regular Federal Income Tax. This seems so unfair because I’m pretty sure I lost close to $50,000 over all. I LOVE $2 Double Double Bonus Poker!

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Now my husband and I moved to Las Vegas where they don’t have that 3% nonsense. It turns out that one of my neighbors plays a lot of video poker. You wouldn’t BELIEVE what they do out here.

She goes every week to pick up free play from Gold Coast, Orleans, South Point, Green Valley Ranch, Sam’s Town, Hard Rock, Palms, Ellis Island, Wynn, and Fiesta. Maybe I’ve forgotten about a couple. She says she used to play at Silverton but they took out all of the games she likes so she doesn’t play there anymore. She keeps track of how much she plays at each place so she gets mailers next month.

She also tracks when each place has double points, triple points (or MORE!) and does most of her play on those days. She goes to drawings almost every weekend. She tells me she plays Deuces Wild at some of these places, Jacks or Better at others, and Double Bonus at still others. It’s so complicated!

I don’t believe in this kind of stuff. I play when and where I want to play, for as long as I want to play. (I don’t even let my husband tell me we have to go home after two hours. I might not be done!) I don’t want to be bothered by all of this running around. I refuse to have any casino dictate to me what I can and can’t do.

Why do video poker players act so strange in Las Vegas?

Lost in Las Vegas

Dear Lost:

Your neighbor sounds to me like a conscientious video poker player. The reason she plays that way is that she wants to win, and it appears she is going about it the right way.

The monthly mailers from casinos make up a large percentage of the net profit from playing. It’s not uncommon for these mailers to average a half-percent or more if you play the minimum amount required to get them. Once you play, say, $90,000 a month at Gold Coast, you’re getting the top mailer. Playing for $180,000 a month there doesn’t get you anything extra over what you got for $90,000, but playing that “extra” $90,000 at, say, Green Valley Ranch gives you a mailer from there too. The same amount of play, then, will get you more if you spread it out, assuming you take the time to learn the “cutoff points” for each casino’s mailer levels.

Each casino has multiple point days and most of them have some form of cash back. Assuming you play $100,000 a month at South Point, you’ll get $300 if you play on single point days or $600 if you play on double point days. It’s up to you when you play, but many players think that an extra $300 for the same amount of play is worth going for.

You have to go to these casinos to pick up your free play. Sometimes you have a day or two to pick up the free play. Sometimes you have all week. But at each of these casinos you’ll get numerous pick-up periods a month. That’s a lot of running around and driving all over town. I’m not sure what size mailers your neighbor is receiving, but many players collect $5,000 or more monthly from this driving around.

The reason your friend plays different games at different casinos is that each casino offers a different “best game.” And even the same casino offers a different best game for 25¢ players than $1 players than $5 players. If you ALWAYS want to play Double Double Bonus, for example, go right ahead (the casinos will love you!), but in Las Vegas it’s virtually never the best game to play. And sometimes it’s a LOT worse than the best game. It took your friend a long time to learn all of these games, and she had to master them one at a time, but now she knows them she has a very profitable hobby. Periodically she will need to learn another game as games are added to and removed from casinos fairly regularly.

If you want to avoid all of this “hassle,” that’s wonderful insofar as the casinos are concerned. They PREFER players playing on single point days. They PREFER players playing more than is necessary to get whatever benefits they offer. They PREFER players be too busy to pick up the free play. And they GREATLY PREFER Double Double Bonus players.

It’s clear from your letter that nobody can force you to do anything you don’t want to do. I’m not even going to try. But I will suggest that there’s a price for your independence. You paid it last year in Mississippi and you’re welcome to pay it this year in Las Vegas. But if you allow yourself “follow the money,” in Las Vegas, you’ll find yourself tens of thousands of dollars each year ahead of doing it “your way.”

Whether that’s worth it to you or not is for you to decide.

Bob Dancer is America's best-known video poker writer and teacher. He has a variety of "how to play better video poker" products, including the software "Video Poker for Winners," Winner's Guides, strategy cards, his autobiography Million Dollar Video Poker, and his two novels, including Sex, Lies, and Video Poker. Dancer's products may be ordered at www.bobdancer.com or by telephone at 1-800-244-2224 M-F 9-5 Pacific Time.

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We republish a classic Bob Dancer article every Sunday - often these articles are updated with new insights from Bob Dancer, the master of video poker writing.

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The Art of Tipping Slot Personnel - Part 1 - June 1, 2008

The Art of Tipping Slot Personnel - Part 2 - June 8, 2008

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Strategy Adjustments in Video Poker - June 29, 2008

One Coin vs Five Coin - July 6, 2008

Video Poker Progressives - July 13, 2008

High Pairs versus Three Cards to a Rolal in Kings or Better Joker Wild - July 20, 2008

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Doubling Up - Does it Ever Make Sense? - Part 2 - August 3, 2008

Did I Quit at the Right Time? - August 10, 2008

Money Management: What Does and Doesn't Work - August 17, 2008

"I'm Playing The Wrong Game" and Other Video Poker Fallacies - August 24, 2008

You Use To Be Such a Cheapskate - August 31, 2008

Is This a Good Promotion? Part 1 - September 7, 2008

Is This a Good Video Poker Promotion? Part 2 - September 14, 2008

More Video Poker Fallacies - September 21, 2008

Not All Proposals Should be Accepted - September 28, 2008

An Opportunity Too Good to Pass Up Part 1 of 2 - October 5, 2008

An Opportunity Too Good to Pass Up Part 2 - October 12, 2008

Predicting Your Future Results at Video Poker - Part 1 of 2 - October 19, 2008

Predicting Future Video Poker Reulsts - Part 2 of 2 - October 26, 2008

Moving Up in Denomination - Part 1 of 2 - November 2, 2008

Moving Up in Video Poker Denomination - Part 2 of 2 - November 9, 2008

A Letter from a Non-Believer - Part 1 of 2 - November 16, 2008

A Letter Froma VP Non-Believer - Part 2 of 2 - November 23, 2008

If You're Going to Steal From Me... - November 30, 2008

A General Look at Progressives - Part 1 of 2 - December 7, 2008

A General Look at Progressives - Part 2 of 2 - December 14, 2008

Would You Rather Be Lucky or Good? - Part 1 of 2 - December 21, 2008

Would You Rather Be Lucky or Good? - Part 2 of 2 - December 28, 2008

Shirley Wins a Cruise - January 4, 2009

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