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May 1, 2008

Vicksburg Video Poker - May 8, 2008

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Common Deuces Wild Mistakes – Juan or the Other – May 29, 2008

Figuring Out Quick Quads - June 5, 2008

Breaking Full Houses in Quick Quads - June 12, 2008

A Quick Quads Puzzler - June 19, 2008

Let’s Go Scouting - June 26, 2008

When You're Not Sure of the Game - July 3, 2008

Can it be Right to Play Hunches - July 10, 2008

Good Hearted Woman in Love With a Good Timin’ Man - July 17, 2008

One-Way Versus Two-Way Straight Penalties - July 24, 2008

Effectual versus Ineffectual Straight Penalties - July 31, 2008

Unusual Dealt Royals - August 7, 2008

Learning from a Horse Handicapper - August 14, 2008

When Bad Is Good - August 21, 2008

I Live For These Moments - August 28, 2008

Las Vegas Do It Different - September 4, 2008

Figuring the worth when there are Multiple Progressives - September 11, 2008

Which is the Better Play? - September 18, 2008

How Much is Too Much? - September 25, 2008

Evaluating a Promotion - October 2, 2008

Sometimes the Jack, Sometimes Ace-Jack, Never the Ace by Itself - October 9, 2008

Why I Don't Play Poker - October 16, 2008

What is a Royal Flush Cycle? - October 23, 2008

A Logical Puzzler - October 30, 2008

Another Look at Changing Machines - November 6, 2008

Testing Matters - November 13, 2008

An Easy Yet Important Quick Quad Puzzler - November 20, 2008

Some Quick Quad Mathematics - November 27, 2008

Barona Improves its Video Poker - December 4, 2008

An Interesting Quick Quads Puzzle - December 11, 2008

Shirley Plays Suduku - December 18, 2008

How Often Does One Time in 360 Occur? - December 25, 2008

Earning a Free Cruise - January 1, 2008

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An Opportunity Too Good to Pass Up - Part II of II

This is a continuation of a story begun last week that originally ran in April 2000 Casino Player. As we pick up the story, players playing a $25 coin-dropping machine have just received a fill of $100 coins rather than $25 coins. They are trying to extract these coins without leaving any trace that there was a mistake made by the casino.

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So we cash in the 44 $25 coins (for $1100) and I feed the bills into the machine. The machine will keep taking bills until it holds $1000. Even three of a kind now will spill 15 coins. But I got nothing. Fed another bill. Nothing. I ended up putting the rest of our $10,000 into the machine and still only had the one coin out.

"I'll go use our line of credit to get $5,000," I told Henry. "You stay here." "But Sam, you promised that we wouldn't go over $10,000 for the trip." "Yes I know, but there are 49 $100 coins in that machine just waiting to be plucked out. Since the machine registers each one as $25, we'll make a profit of $3675. That's worth going for! Instead of returning the normal $1,125, our next full house will return $4,500. That gives us a HUGE advantage."

So I went to the cage and collected $5,000. I came back and the machine continued to swallow bills ravenously. I kept the credits as close to 40 as the machine would take, and then played a hand. By the time we went through the additional $5,000 only 26 of the $100 coins had come through. There were still 24 in there so I went back to the cage for another $5,000.

Henry, meanwhile, was not having a good time. When a $100 coin would spill into the tray, Henry would take it and place it into the purple tray sitting in his lap --- under a magazine. He was sure the eye in the sky was onto our every move. He was envisioning the police showing up at any moment and dragging us both off in handcuffs. And, of course, the amount of the losses themselves was making him quite uncomfortable.

"This is no fair," Henry exclaimed. "You're losing my money and I don't even have a vote in it! You're already down $15,000 and you are only getting $2,600 back. And now you are going to play another $5,000 to get another $2,400 in coins. This doesn't seem to be a smart move. Am I missing something? And by the way, did I mention that our $10,000 limit was passed quite a while ago?"

I kept playing. By the time 40 coins had come out, I changed strategy a little. I figured I should start feeding the machine with $25 coins. Since sometimes a few coins stick in the bottom instead of falling out, I didn't want there to just be $100 coins in there when they opened up the machine again. We figured the $100 coins would be the first ones out. So I bought a $1,000 black tray of coins. And fed them in. And lost. And bought another $1,000 tray.

Eventually we got all 50 $100 coins out of the machine. So now we had $5,000 in $100 tokens and we had to figure out how to get rid of them. We understood the casinos fill out reports and send them to the government whenever you cash in for $3,000 or more, so I cashed out for $2,500 and Henry cashed out for the other $2,500.

Our net score on the night was -$13,750 and Henry demanded that I cough up half of the extra $3,750. We ended up losing more than our limit because of this "too good to pass up" opportunity. I suppose you could say we got what we deserved, but it seemed like such a godsend at the time. How were we to know the machine would go a major dry spell just as the opportunity presented itself? 

Anyway. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Go ahead and tell everybody about it if you like.

Bob Dancer is America's best-known video poker writer and teacher. He has a variety of "how to play better video poker" products, including the software "Video Poker for Winners," Winner's Guides, strategy cards, his autobiography Million Dollar Video Poker, and his two novels, including Sex, Lies, and Video Poker. Dancer's products may be ordered at www.bobdancer.com or by telephone at 1-800-244-2224 M-F 9-5 Pacific Time.

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Classic Dancer

We republish a classic Bob Dancer article every Sunday - often these articles are updated with new insights from Bob Dancer, the master of video poker writing.

Video Poker Questions and Answers - May 4, 2008

More Answers to Questions About Video Poker Machines - May 11, 2008

Losing is a Major Part of Winning at Video Poker - May 18, 2008

Video Poker VS Blackjack - May 25, 2008

The Art of Tipping Slot Personnel - Part 1 - June 1, 2008

The Art of Tipping Slot Personnel - Part 2 - June 8, 2008

Putting Your Ducks In a Row - June 15, 2008

Luck and Skill in Video Poker - June 22, 2008

Strategy Adjustments in Video Poker - June 29, 2008

One Coin vs Five Coin - July 6, 2008

Video Poker Progressives - July 13, 2008

High Pairs versus Three Cards to a Rolal in Kings or Better Joker Wild - July 20, 2008

The Double Up Feature - Does It Ever Make Sense? - Part 1 - July 27, 2008

Doubling Up - Does it Ever Make Sense? - Part 2 - August 3, 2008

Did I Quit at the Right Time? - August 10, 2008

Money Management: What Does and Doesn't Work - August 17, 2008

"I'm Playing The Wrong Game" and Other Video Poker Fallacies - August 24, 2008

You Use To Be Such a Cheapskate - August 31, 2008

Is This a Good Promotion? Part 1 - September 7, 2008

Is This a Good Video Poker Promotion? Part 2 - September 14, 2008

More Video Poker Fallacies - September 21, 2008

Not All Proposals Should be Accepted - September 28, 2008

An Opportunity Too Good to Pass Up Part 1 - October 5, 2008

An Opportunity Too Good to Pass Up Part 2 - October 12, 2008

Predicting Your Future Results at Video Poker - Part 1 of 2 - October 19, 2008

Predicting Future Video Poker Reulsts - Part 2 of 2 - October 26, 2008

Moving Up in Denomination - Part 1 of 2 - November 2, 2008

Moving Up in Video Poker Denomination - Part 2 of 2 - November 9, 2008

A Letter from a Non-Believer - Part 1 of 2 - November 16, 2008

A Letter Froma VP Non-Believer - Part 2 of 2 - November 23, 2008

If You're Going to Steal From Me... - November 30, 2008

A General Look at Progressives - Part 1 of 2 - December 7, 2008

A General Look at Progressives - Part 2 of 2 - December 14, 2008

Would You Rather Be Lucky or Good? - Part 1 of 2 - December 21, 2008

Would You Rather Be Lucky or Good? - Part 2 of 2 - December 28, 2008

Shirley Wins a Cruise - January 4, 2009

More Classic Dancer coming Sunday January 11, 2009.

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